The Near Mistake I Made with the Chandeliers (parts 1 & 2)

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This is another two-parter because recent developments have occurred about the alabaster chandeliers and other lighting. If you’ve already read the post, please click the link below to read part 2.

 

Part 2 Begins Here

 

We’re taking a break from the painting for now. I’d like to focus your attention on the new alabaster chandeliers that I just ordered from Brass Light Gallery in Milwaukee, WI.

Many of you know I’m not from Milwaukee, but I lived there for three years in the late 1970s. I visited my mom and sis too many times to count until Mom passed away in 2019.

 

How did you find Brass Light Gallery, Laurel?

 

I found them like I found many things by doing a Google search.

However, we need to go back to last May because I originally planned to do a different chandelier for the living room.
Please read about it here.

Then, I realized there was too much teal, so I changed the Gracie panels from the Robinson House to the Hampton Garden with a beautiful celadon green background. (below)

 

My virtual living room - Gracie Chinoiserie custom panels - Hampton Garden classic celadon blue

 

But before that post (which is a really good one to read in the link above), I decided to change the living room chandelier from the Egyptian glass chandelier to a neo-classical alabaster bowl. That’s when I found Brass Light Gallery in Milwaukee.

The plan was always to do an alabaster bowl chandelier in the den. However, the Egyptian chandelier makes such a grand statement in a room that has already reached its quota of grandiosity. Besides, the Egyptian chandeliers are nearly $10,000. I have so much I still need to do, and that is not in the budget

 

I opened up a designer account but never contacted them, that is, until about two weeks ago.

 

Since then, I have been working with the sales manager, Janel Previn, who’s a doll, and a damned hard-working one at that. She’s going the extra mile for me. This is just how she is. So, make no mistake, this will be going in the next edition of Laurel’s Rolodex! (It comes out every November and people who purchase it are entitled to lifetime updates!)

 

While the designer discount is only about 10% off, the retail prices are exceedingly reasonable.

All their custom light fixtures are manufactured in their plant in downtown Milwaukee, which I’ve driven past dozens of times.

Brass Light Gallery is a family-owned company that began in 1974. I love that. It reminds me of fantastic Crown Point Cabinetry.

While Brass Light Gallery makes indoor and outdoor fixtures, they are known for their exquisite hand-made alabaster chandeliers. The stone comes from Spain, and in case you missed it, the lights are fabricated in Milwaukee.

 

The first decision to make was selecting a style of which there are several.

 

Palladian alabaster chandelier 24" Brass Light Gallery

 

While I like all of them, the Palladian style, with its lovely fluted bottom, was the clear winner. After all, flutes exist on the casings, fireplace mantel, and stylized palmettes of the Anglo-Indian sconces.

The next choice, and perhaps the most agonizing, is what size to get. Many posts discuss what size light to get for all kinds of lighting and situations. The measurements for all lighting can be found in the 333 Rules & Tips You Need to Know Guide.

Please remember that the numbers are a guide, not a decree from the Pope regarding sizing chandeliers.

 

However,  I have one rule that never fails me when it comes to most lighting.

 

If in doubt, size DOWN, not up. There is nothing worse than a light fixture that takes over the room. That is unless that’s the look you’re going for.

By the way, this rule is for light fixtures, not art or mirrors.

 

The common rule, which most of us know, is to add two perpendicular sides of the room together to get the diameter.

 

Fine, I have a room that’s 20 x 30, so I guess I’ll get a 50″ diameter chandelier.

WRONG.  That’s ridiculously big, but you might do well with two chandeliers or maybe even four in a room that large.

Here’s what happened. I knew that the living room could easily take a 30″ chandelier. However, since both alabaster chandeliers can be seen from the dining area, I want them to be the same size. Despite the super-high ceiling in the den, the room is only 10 x 13. So, I fear a 30″ shallow bowl would look like a flying saucer coming in for a landing.

In addition, they only had one 30″ chandelier in stock.

 

Today, I made a paper template, a 24″ circle. Luckily, the painters were here.

 

Alex holding up 24 template for alabaster chandelier

Haha.

It isn’t easy to see in the photo, but the size looked terrific.

Another thing I did was look at antique alabaster bowl pendants online. Most are around 19″ in diameter. Then, I saw two 24″ alabaster chandeliers described as large.

 

The next thing to decide was what to use to hold it up.

 

Brass Light Gallery offers solid brass stems with or without a break, and they also offer a chain holder. The 24″ bowls get three chains. As shown below, one can also do three chains or stems that go into a single stem.

 

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This is also a good visual reference for scale.

 

Tuscany chandelier Brass Light Gallery al-2024-aw-00

Above is the Tuscany style with the 3-chain holder.

 

I decided on the three-chain version with a 60″ total drop, about 8′-6″ from the floor. I chose the chain version because I want to be able to raise it higher if we think that it would look better. With the solid stems, changes in height are not possible. They have a choice of three styles of chain. I went with their basic chain, which is lovely.

Because of the original ceiling rose, I can only do a six-inch canopy. I selected a simple stepped piece with a lotus flower design for that element. It’s so high up that no one will ever notice. However, flowers are abundant in the frieze, art, door/window casings, fireplace mantel, and guardrail.

 

Spec sheet 24 inch Palladian alabaster pendant light - Brass Light Gallery

Above is a spec sheet made for me, today.

We will always be looking up so the chains will be fore-shortened. This is a 66″ drop on this 30″ alabaster chandelier.

The next decision was which finish for the chains and canopy.

 

Janel Fedexed me some samples, and the winner was immediately clear: Heirloom Brass gets the gig.

And one last decision: to tint the alabaster or not to tint. Janel strongly advised doing a light tint to highlight the fluting.

 

Today, I created a new rendering.

 

My living room desing - Gracie - Hampton Garden Chinoiserie double panel celadon - Antique Light Gallery - Palladian alabaster 24 inch chandelier

 

This rendering was originally done when the room was still a huge mess, so I had to draw the wainscoting.

Near the end of the day, Janel sent me four of the Palladian alabaster chandeliers they had in stock. While some interiors would look fantastic with these, they are too gray and too busy for my classically influenced living room. If they don’t have something else in stock, I might have to wait to have some new ones made with less going on.

It will be worth it.

 

In the meantime, tomorrow, the electricians are returning to begin installing the light fixtures!

 

Without the alabaster chandeliers, there are 18 fixtures to install. But there’s a lot more than that, as I am still missing an intercom, all of the switch plates, and more! I reckon they’ll be here at least two days.

OH! On Thursday last week, I scrambled to get new light bulbs, which arrived yesterday. More about the lighting for Wednesday.

In addition, the den is getting painted tomorrow!

 

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Part 2 Begins Here

 

Wednesday, September 18, 2024

 

The other night, after I published my post, I had the arduous task of getting together all 18 light fixtures. Most I knew where they were, but a few I struggled with. I discovered that I put the kitchen pendant IN the kitchen pantry. Sometimes, I’m just too clever for my own good. lol

This morning, I was met with fumes from the stair railing I didn’t know would be painted.

 

However, the electrician, Milton, was there, and I knew I needed to go over everything with him.

 

I am trying to cool it with the negative self-talk, but I just have to say I’m an idiot. I have made mistakes, and one was not getting the sconces rewired.

shell sconces won at auction

You know those sconces I got on auction and have had since the third week in October 2023?  Those gorgeous anglo-indian sconces with the tinted aqua-blue hurricane glass shades?

Well, I’ve known all along that they needed to be rewired. However, I told myself that if the electrician can wire an entire home, they can rewire some little sconces. Nope. They don’t do that.

So, no, they are not ready to go up, but I found two sources from a Google search. One is in Brookline, and the other is in West Roxbury. Chris also gave me the names of a couple of places west of here.

 

However, last night, standing in the living room with the horrid single bulb on, I held one of the sconces up and gasped.

 

To set your minds at ease, it was a GOOD gasp. All I need is to paint the den and install these sconces, and we’ll be done—I mean, done. Nothing else. My guests and I will sit on the floor.

 

 

The other bad news upstairs, but not the worst, is the kitchen pendant.

 

I knew it was a bit small, but it was also too white, even with the yellow bulb. It’s possible to tint glass, so that would be something to look into. However, it would be better as a semi-flushmount ceiling light. I’d really like it to disappear; I’ll tell you why in a sec.

In the interest of seeing how wackadoodle paint colors can be, the image below is an excellent example.

The ceiling, coving, and frieze are ALL the same color.  (Cloud White 967)

No, the ceiling is not a brighter white, even though it appears to be.

Milton hanging picture light

 

Tha’s Milton, the electrician, an Adonis if there ever was one!  (please forgive the blatant objectification) He didn’t get very far with the first picture light installation. He had to run off to a class as he’s getting a master’s degree.

Anyway, he put up the bathroom ceiling light and the Katie pendant over the new toilet. (I will show you, soon.) That little toilet niche is one of my favorite parts of the renovation. Actually, the bathroom as a whole has turned out far better than I expected.

 

Oh, there was a question about LED bulbs.

 

I can share what I used in another post. The bulbs I got are softer and have a higher CRI  (Color Rendering Index) than those I’ve been living with. While they are 270o kelvins like the others I’ve used, they are considerably more white.

They are a big improvement, but I need to keep investigating to see if something even better exists.

 

Oh, there’s more.

 

It’s about the alabaster chandeliers; specifically the SIZE of the chandeliers.

 

This is hilarious. There was a little get-together this evening at a friend on Beacon Hill, and in our host’s living room lives a 35″ round ottoman, a 26″ rattan tray on the ottoman, and a semi-flushmount round ceiling light. How do I know how big there are? Well, there was a time I used to carry a tape measure around with me, haha. However, my host kindly fetched me a ruler. She was happy to oblige.

I can’t post the images from her home, of course, but it’s not really necessary. I took pics, and I did find the light fixture online. I thought it looked a little small for the living room and maybe the den, too. Well, it’s 25″ in diameter—one inch bigger than what I was planning to do.

 

If the 26″ tray were my chandelier, it would be a little too small for my living room.

;

The 35″ diameter would be too large, but not by much.

Therefore, it’s clear that I need to do two of the 30″ diameter alabaster chandeliers. They will be spectacular, but this is why I need the overhead light in the kitchen to disappear. The entry light also needs to take a backseat.

Alas, they only have one, but it is a beauty.

 

Janelle sent me this exquisite 30″ diameter alabaster chandelier late this afternoon.

 

30 inch diameter alabaster chandelier antique light gallery

In the meantime, the painting is nearly done! I can’t wait to show you the den, but I must wait because the second coat of wall paint wasn’t on. But I can tell you this. The color-drenched den in North Sea Green with the Mayo Teal ceiling, coving, and frieze is STUNNING.

It is exactly like the rendering.

 

chartreuse sofa - white coffee table - oushak rug-Benjamin Moore Fair Isle Blue - teal paint color

Okay, I am falling asleep!

xo,

 

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27 Responses

  1. I was reading your past blog posts about kitchen lighting and came across a 14 ” black and white caged milk glass pendent from pottery barn that is so lovely I don’t think I can have a kitchen without it so of course it is no longer available. I can’t find one on eBay or anywhere like that 🙄🥲
    I copied a link to one I found at Ballard designs but I just can’t decide if it will do !? Any suggestions or similar pendants you know of ?
    Thanks,
    Katie

  2. The alabaster chandelier in your render above is absolutely amazing.
    I thought the Katie sconce was to go in the kitchen ? I must have missed a post. I just ordered two to go above my kitchen windows. I hope they will look okay in my more contemporary home ! My husband and daughter looked at me like I was an alien when I showed them what I ordered now I’m second guessing myself.😂
    By the way your white paint colors look so creamy you talented lady !

    1. Hi Katie,

      I bought two Katie Sconces thinking I would use two in the kitchen. Then, I liked the lamplight so much that I decided to do one over the sink where it was needed the most. Since I had two, I put the other one in the bathroom.

      I think the Katie sconces would look terrific in contemporary home. And they give off a beautiful, soft light.

      Talent in my case, comes from years of experience and lots of obsessing, lol.

  3. I have followed this renovation journey with you but without all the work, decision-making, corrections, and fatigue that you’ve gone through. I can’t help but wonder what in the world you will do all week when this is finally complete—and you are nearing that point soon. Will you just go to sleep in your gorgeous apt. and wake up 100 years later like Sleeping Beauty? Or will you just party every day until you drop? Or will you sit down and slowly put all the blogs together to write a book about how to survive a total renovation? You need a break, but enjoy the journey for now. Hugs, Bea

  4. My heart goes to you with the whole lighting issue. We moved 3 times in 7 years and at this point I’m convinced that lighting and I mean bulbs, not fixtures, is a specialty that is deserving of a college degree program. All the whining aside, I came across a paper written by Waveform Lighting that talks all aspects of CRI and impacts of CRI and CCT together. There are widgets throughout the article to press that shows these dynamics. Here’s the link

  5. Laurel, I LOVE the alabaster chandeliers! The biggest lesson I’ve learned through your reno is that we have to be dynamic when updating our homes. Our first brilliant idea might not be the best idea in the end.

  6. Hi Laurel, Isn’t it ridiculous that we are having issues finding the right light bulb? I’m not sorry to say that being forced into this situation by the government is just awful. I know what many are going to say and I am aware that the new ones are green and are going to save the planet but come on! The number of people that would like the choice to use the old one is probably greater than we think. I abhor the new bulbs and stocked up on the incandescents before the ban went into place and know many that did the same. I treasure them. I do have some LEDs and believe it or not they do not last as long as they are supposed to. I dated them when I put them in my lights and had many blow out already so we are being sold up the river and forced to buy something, ugly, expensive, and not as great as advertised, PLUS they are MADE IN CHINA which I hate. Anyway, good luck finding the correct bulb and I’m sorry for all of us who are forced to waste valuable time on such a stupid albeit important thing. I love the reno and admire your grit and perserverance.

  7. I think your kitchen is stunning! It looks absolutely delightful! Thank you for taking us on your journey towards a gracious home.

  8. Hi Laurel,
    You were very fortunate to have been able to see how the size of your light fixtures will look. Seeing examples in first hand is so helpful.
    I can’t wait to see your den. As I was looking at your rendering I came to the realization that the drapery you use in that room should be the same color as the walls. Fully color drench that room! And then the chartreuse sofa will really sing. IMHO 😉

  9. Laurel, here is another source for rewiring and repair and new sales- Patti Brothers. they are west of Boston in Sudbury, on the Post Road. Small but sell fabulous pieces and can work magic if you cannot find exactly what you are looking for. Back in ’93 when we were building our home, their trend was toward 1800’s style lighting. However they also had/have contemporary fixtures. Patti Brothers, Address: 215 Boston Post Rd # 1, Sudbury, MA 01776, Phone: (978) 443-9412, website: pattibros.com

  10. Following your entire renovation and always look forward to the next “drop”. You’re doing such a beautiful job with this project.

    I, like others here, would love to know about the light bulb you’ve found as I, too, am having issue with what I have.

    Thank you, Laurel!

  11. I agree with your idea about using a flush mount or semi flush mount light in the kitchen that doesn’t interfere with the sight line when viewed from the LR. I think I would use a larger size light in the kitchen and match the alabaster used in the LR chandeliers to keep the continuity. I think it would be a beautiful look. Very soft and refined. Makes perfect sense to me but what do I know??

  12. It sounds like you already have some options for rewiring the sconces in Brookline and Roxbury. I was born in Boston and grew up west of Boston. If you still need a source for rewiring I strongly recommend The Yankee Lighting Workshop. Scott, the proprietor, recently assembled my Murano-style chandelier that came in multiple boxes.

    As for the Brass Light Gallery pendants. Can you provide more information about which alabaster type you selected? Some of the alabaster choices appear to be more white than others.

  13. I agree with your assessment of the kitchen ceiling light and making it a semi-flush mount. Or maybe replace with a flush mount. The black chain doesn’t seem to jive with the elegant cabinetry. Is the switch a dimmer switch? Really looking forward to seeing the newly painted den!!! Great decision about making the alabaster chandelier in the living room 30″. You are a fine-tuning specialist in details!!!

  14. Laurel, the alabaster chandeliers are wonderful. Will make definitely make a great impression when looking up as you come up the stairs from your bedroom suite and when coming into the room from the main entrance. Love them.

  15. Will you please share which light bulbs you chose and where you obtained them? Like you I do not like LED, and am having difficulty finding the perfect bulbs.

  16. I love love love the new choice for lighting! It’s a classic and elegant choice and like you said it will complement the existing elements, not compete with them!
    I can hardly wait to see your beautiful home in all its glory!

  17. So nice to read about Brass Light Gallery. It has always been my “go to” place for fixtures as I live in a suburb of Milwaukee. The showroom is lovely. I am sure you will be very pleased, Laurel.

  18. OMG Laurel I’ve been sweating bullets trying to figure out what chandeliers to put in my entry hallway and it turns out the answer was an hour away! I’ll give them your regards when I go visit.

  19. Perfect! I like that it’s a simpler design with so much going on in the room. Not that I’m an expert, and the light should make everyone look beautiful. My electrician convinced me to go with pot lights and for some reason I caved. A big mistake, so happy for you, can’t wait to see the finished room.

  20. Hi Laurel,
    Since the electrician is going to be there, it’s a shame the fixtures you received aren’t quite right.
    But I’m glad you aren’t settling and having the lights you’ve received put up. It will be worth the wait to have the perfect lights in your beautiful home.
    Recently I found an alabaster lamp for $35 at my favorite vintage store. And I already had a scalloped wicker lamp shade that fit it perfectly. I’m a big fan of anything made from alabaster.

  21. Nice to see you pay homage to your time in MKE! Brass Light Gallery is a special place! I’m in a suburb on the southwest side, enjoyed several visits there. Very kind people.

  22. Love, love, love the alabaster chandelier that you chose! To see your vision coming to fruition is so fun for us, Laurel. Everything is looking lovely; I’m so happy for you :]

  23. The alabaster chandeliers are a perfect choice!! They will create such beautiful lighting effects. I am looking forward to seeing the den after it is finished being painted. It is so enjoyable to see the progress being made. It just keeps getting better and better!

  24. Love the creamy alabaster chandelier. It’s perfect. The Egyptian one never felt quite right to me, not that you asked. Everything is turning out beyond beautiful and I have enjoyed taking this journey with you. Thank you!

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