The Best Crown Moulding that’s Fit for a King!

 Crown moulding is one of my favorite topics!

 

(That’s how I learned to spell it in design school) But, I’m fine if you spell it Crown Molding.

Of course, it isn’t like we’ve never discussed crown moulding. We certainly have discussed it and all kinds of mouldings– dozens of posts. However, the topic has always been a part of another post on mouldings.

One of those posts that I strongly advise you to look at and maybe bookmark is this post which goes over the proportions of most applied wall mouldings.

And, also this post talks about perfect architectural proportions.

Another favorite post discusses wainscoting. Earlier today, by coincidence, I saw it spelled Wayne’s Coating.

 

The reality is there are thousands of crown moulding and other moulding designs.

 

I could write an entire book devoted to all of the crown moulding possibilities. So, please know right now that I will barely scratch the surface. However, I hope you’ll learn at least one thing you don’t know.

Okay, I have a confession to make.

I’ve become obsessed super interested in crown mouldings. I mean, I’ve always loved them, but ever since I moved to Boston, I’ve spent a crazy amount of time looking at them. Of course, it has to do with my impending renovation.

 

Oh, some of you asked what’s happening with the renovation.

 

A lot so here goes. But, for those of you not interested, please scroll to here.*

I found a terrific contractor, and he’s writing his formal contract as I write this.

I’m also hiring an architect because I’d recommend it if I were advising anyone. Why? No matter how much you know, you don’t know what you don’t know. While I’ve learned much through interior design school and my design practice for two decades, I don’t know all the lingo.

 

And, there are a few things I’m not sure about.

 

Ultimately, it’s money well-spent as it will save time and help the job go more smoothly.

It’s mostly for the downstairs, where aside from the kitchen and stairwell, are the most significant alterations.

The other day, I learned all about embrasure doors. They are doors that close normally, but when open, they fit snuggly in a pocket in the perpendicular wall to the opening so they look like a paneled wall.

 

via House & Garden - DeVOL kitchen - radiator - embrasured window

via House & Garden – DeVOL kitchen – radiator – embrasure window shutter.

In fact, I’ve revised my conceptual drawing as I figured out how to make all the doors the same size. And, all four doorways are the same size, too!

 

Oh, can we see, Laurel?

Sorry, not yet.

However, this is where the architect is necessary. He can do a detailed drawing showing the contractor, Robert, how the pocket needs to be built with the Harmon hinges, as they are called.

(I promise to get into the crown moulding!)

The last news, if you missed it a couple of weeks ago, is that I have a furnished (very rare) rental lined up, 1.1 miles away, in a closet, in the far northeast corner of Beacon Hill. If it’s super hot, there’s a slightly longer way to go that’s nearly flat. However, I’ve been up and down the hill three times this week.

 

When are they starting?

 

Good question. As soon as the contract is signed, Robert can apply for the short-form building permit for everything but the stairs and the moving of the downstairs door. That takes a couple of weeks to process. However, the structural stuff like the stairs requires a long-form permit that can take up to two months to come through.

Sooo, I can move out to “the closet” as early as June 4th.

I also need four out of five of the other unit’s approval to make the structural changes. For those who missed it, I do have stamped structural engineering plans from a licensed structural engineer.

AND, I need approval from the Back Bay architectural committee to put a condenser in my enclosed private garden.

 

*Okay, that was a long update, so it’s time to get into our topic, all about the best crown mouldings.

 

But, Laurel, you have those super-high ceilings, and I have 8-foot ceilings. My ceilings are too low for a crown.

 

Yes, I know and understand, but there’s no such thing as a ceiling that’s too low for a crown moulding, so please hang on. I’ve lived in homes with an 8-foot ceiling for at least 2/3 of my life.

So, two things. I’m not changing the mouldings in the two rooms with the super-high ceilings.

I will add crown mouldings in the spaces with 10-foot and 9-foot ceilings.

Those include every area of the lower level

The entry/kitchen

The vestibule between the upstairs bathroom and den/2nd bedroom

 

To begin with, here are some things to keep in mind when choosing a crown moulding, or any moulding for that matter.

 

The actual moulding size doesn’t usually change much between an 8-foot and 10-foot ceiling, or even taller.

I’ve realized for a long time, it is always better for mouldings to go smaller than too big. This situation is where dinky is fine and too large can be overwhelming.

I’m not the only one who has had these thoughts. Please read this superb blog post by This is Carpentry about the magical entablature.

Entablature_via Stephens College

Entablature via Stephens College

 

Correct Proportions for Interior Mouldings 8-ft Ceiling Based on Doric Order

Above, you can see that the frieze is just under the cornice. Remember we were recently discussing architectural friezes. The terms cornice and crown are sometimes used interchangeably. However, a cornice can also be a secondary element beneath the crown.

 

Kuiken-Brothers-Classical-Boxed-Georgian-Cornice

Kuiken Brothers Mouldings

 

 

Generally, I think of a cornice as a more elaborate crown, such as this elegant Georgian style with the box detail under the crown and an additional smaller crown.

 

In the example above, this is made up of several combined mouldings. This is an art unto itself. Kuiken has several tutorials sharing how some of them are made.

For many fantastic examples of these and other types of crown moulding, please check out Gil Schafer’s website.

 

Unless photographed in situ, photos can be quite misleading regarding crown mouldings.

 

The angles the camera sees can change things dramatically. Plus, there’s a big difference in how a moulding will look from the front and the side. So, unless you’ve had experience with a particular moulding, I heartily recommend making a lifesize sample of it. Most companies will sell or give you a sample size for this purpose. If possible, have someone hold up the model in the exact place(s) it is going.

Yes, just like a paint sample.

 

Another important point to know about crown mouldings is how they are measured.

via easy crown moulding - crown moulding dimensions.

Via easy crown moulding – crown moulding dimensions.

Two and 1/8th inch is the projection. (how far the crown moulding sticks out from the wall.

3 and 1/2″ is the height along the wall,  and 4″ is the face or diagonal measurement.

 

Let’s look at a few things I don’t recommend that you do.

 

A lot of builders enjoy building up their crown moulding. However, many do so without knowing how that works. Rest areas are necessary. And this holds true even in a room with a very high ceiling.

Below is an example of a crown moulding on steroids.

 

too built up crown moulding

There are waaaay too many bumps on this overly large moulding.

It’s like a bad 60s hairdo.

 

Funtasy Wigs

 

While this post is primarily about crown mouldings applied where the wall meets the ceiling, I need to mention one 21st-century abomination that shouldn’t exist on Shaker-style kitchen cabinetry.

 

Nooooooooooo

 

The above example is the so-called Shaker crown moulding.

While I do understand their reasoning, it’s misguided. The builders think Shaker cabinetry is clean-lined and should have a matching crown with no artifice or bending parts.

 

But, the upside-down pyramid is an entirely made-up shape in terms of crown moulding.

 

deVOL-TunbridgeWells-shaker kitchen - farrow and ball wimborne white

 

What should be there instead? Well, a small traditional crown with normal curves looks great, as shown in the DeVOL kitchen above.

 

Clerkenwell - Shaker Kitchen - DeVOL Kitchens - Small Kitchens

Above, another DeVOL shaker kitchen with no crown moulding at all.

Below are some more gorgeous kitchens from DeVOL that demonstrate this beautifully.

 

devol kitchens - free standing cabinet - black - with celadon interior - glass doors

 

DeVOL Shaker kitchen small crown moulding

I love these kitchens from DeVOL.

 

All of these crown mouldings would look terrific on a wall, as well.

The British do a thousand times better when designing architectural features than a lot of us Americans.

 

And one thing they do in abundance is plaster mouldings. (that links to an old but very beautiful post!)

 

While you can get plaster mouldings in the US, they are not nearly as common as wood and other materials we’ll get to in a sec. And, from what I understand, they are also very expensive.

However, plaster was the material of choice in the 19th century. It could be molded into beautiful shapes and didn’t do crazy things like wood sometimes does.

 

In fact, my apartment, built in 1880, still has the original plaster crown moulding in the living room.

 

my apartment original plast crown moulding

I’m sure the rosettes were applied individually.

 

original crown moulding with frieze my Boston apartment

See some gloppy paint? While the walls in this place are in great shape, the trim in the living room needs a little extra attention.

 

Jan 19, 11-49 den - Benjamin Moore Cedar Key

The den’s plaster crown moulding and frieze is not original. But, I think whoever did it did a great job! (Yes, I’m going to change the louvered doors.) Please notice the plaster swan neck coving, the English call it.

 

There are some wonderful sources for plaster crown moulding in the UK. Here’s a partial list.

 

The Coving Shop

Victorian Cornice

GJ Plaster Mouldings

 

Undoubtedly, there are hundreds of other companies that make plaster crown mouldings.

 

Can you get plaster mouldings in the US? Yes, you can, but not as easily as in England. One of my favorite sources, DecoCraft, has a tacky-sounding name, but they have a gorgeous selection of sophisticated crown mouldings. Plus, they show how the moulding will look from three different angles. They also share many of their mouldings in situ. As I said earlier, it’s incredibly helpful.

 

So, why are there crown mouldings in the first place?

 

Crown mouldings are not only decorative; they provide a solution for a sometimes messy line where the wall meets the ceiling.

A crown moulding lifts the eye upward, always making a room seem taller.

 

Please enjoy the posts below when you have a chance.

 

Boxy Boring Living Room, Is There Any Hope?

Ranch House Decor Mistakes You Might Be Making

The Guaranteed Way to a Beautiful Room (It’s Not the wall color)

 

Another favorite designer who does the most brilliant crown mouldings is Steven Gambrel.

 

long-island-home-Steven Gambrel - detail shot

Do you remember those gorgeous step crown mouldings that Steven Gambrel did in his old beach house in the Hamptons? Well, DecoCraft carries those crown mouldings.

 

Steven Gambrel - instagram - summer home - dining room

These stepped ceiling mouldings give the illusion that the ceiling is higher than it is. While the crown moulding is actually only a couple of inches tall, the illusion from the front is a much taller crown moulding and a higher ceiling.

 

In the US, most of us are used to crown mouldings made of wood like poplar, maple, or oak.

 

The problem with wood, especially in climates with copious amounts of humidity and temperature, is that it expands, contracts, and sometimes cracks.
I’m not saying don’t use it. But, maybe after this post, you will consider a synthetic crown moulding.

However, the moulding industry has been revolutionized in recent years by the ever-growing popular polyurethane and other synthetic materials used for crowns and other mouldings.

 

The advantages are numerous.

 

  • No cracking, shrinking, splitting
  • Flexibility. Most can be bent around curves, easily
  • Polyurethane mouldings can be made into an endless variety of shapes, both plain and integrate
  • They are less expensive
  • Synthetic mouldings are lightweight and easy to put up. Many companies say they are easy to put up even without experience. I don’t know. I don’t think anything that requires me to stand on a ladder with my arms over my head is easy to do. haha, However, there are no nails. There is a special glue to hold them in place. Once painted, they look the same as wood or plaster.

 

These crown mouldings usually come already primed for paint.

 

One of my favorite companies is Orac Decor. They sell Orac Decor at all of these places:

Wayfair

Lowes

Amazon

Overstock

 

However, another great source with thousands of mouldings is Ekena Millwork.

 

So, can you put up anything you like in any home?

 

No, I don’t think so.

For example, a 50s ranch would look strange, adorned with heavy Victorian coving.

However, not too long ago, we looked at several rooms with low ceilings. There are some great ideas for crown mouldings in that post.

 

Below, I’ll share some styles I think would give a sense of that without going overboard.

 

 

Some of the crown mouldings come with a small frieze as part of the moulding.

One thing I love, which I think might be catching on as a trend, is continuing the crown down the wall in a flat frieze. And, a frieze on the ceiling, too!

You can also add a simple door casing or baseboard underneath the crown to create a frieze. Another idea you may not have thought of, if there’s a frieze, is to turn the crown moulding upside down and put the decorative frieze on the ceiling.

 

Classic Islington Townhouse - DeVOL kitchens crown moulding ceiling detail

Above is a more elaborate version from DeVOL kitchens of putting the wall frieze on the ceiling. Again, this is something I’ve never seen in the U.S. but is sometimes found in older English homes.

 

Below is one last inspirational image from DeVOL showing a more contemporary version of the Victorian Coving.

 

Classic Jersey DeVOL Crown Moulding

 

For my new kitchen, I’m thinking more like this, below from DecoCraft.

 

decocraftusa - DC505-0433D

So beautiful!

Please visit these posts for more helpful posts about crown moldings.

 

Our Modest Starter Home Might Be Our Forever Home

The Best Builder Upgrades You May Not Have Considered

 

Well, I could keep going, as I said initially. The subject of crown mouldings is a HUGE topic!

xo,

 

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19 Responses

  1. Hi Laurel,
    Great post! I do have a follow up question though. We are renovating our kitchen, and the cabinets we bought came with crown molding-esque trim to go along the top of the cabinets. We also have some pretty sloppy wall to ceiling joints I would love to cover, so I need guidance on whether cabinet and wall moldings must match, or just need to compliment each other. Any advice you can give would be appreciated!

    Thank You,
    Racheal

  2. Check out Brent Hull’s work with Windsor One. I live in another state and watch his YouTube— so much good classical building info! I have my eye on Windsor One colonial revival moulding for a future renovation.

  3. I feel extra special to be one of the lucky few to have seen the photos from the Boston home last week. I’m sorry you had to go through the ordeal of taking them down, though privacy is a valuable thing and must be respected! Thanks for all you do, Laurel! I’ve been learning so much. – A young homemaker

  4. Thanks, Laurel. That was a helpful post you linked, especially since we have a painting project coming up & have been considering painting the walls & trim the same color.
    BTW, I’ve been trying out several colors with the Samplize samples. Pure genius! I even tried it on a crown molding and it stuck to every detail of the profile & pulled off cleanly.

  5. Hi, Laurel–

    What size crown moulding would you recommend for 8 foot ceilings? I’m thinking of a simple single curve so as not to take away from the millwork around the doors and windows but would like the heightening effect. Maybe my question is what’s too big?

    1. Hi Lauren,

      To lift the ceiling, you want more of the moulding on the ceiling and less on the wall. So, the vertical height perpendicular to the wall, should be the smallest measurement. The best thing to do if you’re not sure is to get a few samples and see what looks best to your eye.

      I used these mouldings in my old home with eight-foot ceilings and was very happy.

      Oops! no, that’s a good post, but it only has the wainscoting.

      This guide from Kuiken Bros. is very good.

      I’m also 98% sure we did Dyke’s Lumber 185 crown in our townhouse. That was in 1996! https://www.dykeslumber.com/mouldings

      184 is a slightly smaller and also very nice.

  6. To Lori Barfield, on the DeVOL website, it states that the muted olive green cupboards against the wall are painted a bespoke shade that was mixed specifically for the project. The other shade (I’m presuming the island) is Mushroom from DeVOL’s Shaker collection. I’m hoping Laurel might be able to give us the name of a similar muted olive green as the bespoke one used. It’s lovely!

  7. Thank you Laurel! This is a great reference point for all considering crown moldings! Please, does anyone know the kitchen cabinet paint color on the last inspirational image from DeVOL?

  8. Dear Laurel:
    Exhaustive wealth of information. Thanks.
    I do want to point out that you have placed your extension line incorrectly when showing the depth of a crown moulding. It needs to be from the face of the wall. You show it as though the piece had no depth at the wall. This would add probably 3/8th inch to the overall dimension.
    Merv Wolf

    1. Hi Mervin,

      I took that from Easy Crown Moulding, just to show how the crown is measured. I’m sure you’re right. It does look like their line should’ve been a bit wider.

  9. Is it possible to have crown moldings when the height of the ceiling varies? Several rooms in my house have ceilings that slant upwards in different places and I wish I could do crown molding but I suspect I can’t.

    1. Hi Breanna,

      It depends. I think if there’s one symmetrical slope, then it’s fine to run the moulding around. However, some rooms have a ton of slopes, and then I think, it can look odd. I should do a post about architectural missteps.

  10. Laurel, this information couldn’t have come at a better time. I’ve been considering having crown molding installed in my very bland bedroom. I think adding some architectural details would improve it immensely. Thank you for all the links to additional information.

  11. Hi, Laurel
    Thanks for another helpful post for those of us with 8’ ceilings. My question is, are there any design considerations for wall color vs molding color? Seems like now I’m noticing more rooms with the same color on both walls and trim, some with the baseboard the same as the wall color but the crown is white, or vice versa.

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