He Said “If I Wanted Farmhouse Style, I’d Go Live On a @#$%^&* Farm!”

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Dear Laurel,

Oh, I’m sure this is going to be boring for you. I am soon to be married (for the third time) to THE ONE. How do I know that he’s THE ONE at 54?

Well, after you’ve been throwing up your guts after a batch of bad oysters and a man stays by your side in the ER for 24 hours straight and he makes you laugh so hard that you think that you’ll throw up some more… that is how I know.

And the reason that I gave you that graphic preamble that I’m sure is way more information than you care to know is that aside from all of his many attributes, we have diametric tastes in decorating.

He loves his mission-style furniture which I largely HATE! Laurel, I HATE it! I don’t like the colors and I don’t like the boxy style. The sofa sucks.

 

stickley-living room - not farmhouse style
Here’s the living room. This is from a realtor’s shot. We had the house on the market for a while, but then decided to keep his home and sell mine, but instead of starting fresh, he wants to keep everything as is. We have the means, but he doesn’t want to change anything.

While I realize that some people will love this room, it is so not my taste.

Here’s his favorite chair in the den.

The dining room that was staged for the realtor photo. (not by me) This room does not appeal to me in the slightest.

 

What do I want? I guess it’s called Farmhouse Style.

 

Like, I would paint that panel molding yesterday! Wouldn’t it look great painted?

My preference is for light and bright– whites and blues and I like color too, just not mustard, rust and green.

I adored your two posts about Mark Sikes and I like all of the images you post of Studio McGee.

The other day, I casually mentioned that I’d like to redecorate the other day and then saw a side of him, that I had never seen before.

He rarely raises his voice, but he said, “If I Wanted Farmhouse Style, I’d Go Live On a @#$%^&* Farm!”

I ran out of the room crying! If a man is going to stay up all night with you in the hospital all night, can’t he at least be willing to bend a bit?

Well, yes, he can because a few minutes later he came over and gave me a big hug and apologized. See? He really is a good man. I’m very blessed.

I think that he’s afraid of losing control and maybe a part of him just can’t completely let go of the life he had built with his late wife. I know that he loves me, but he went through a rough time with her lengthy illness. I lost my second husband to a sudden heart attack. That’s how we met; at our Church’s bereavement group.

In the end, he said that he’s willing to compromise, he just doesn’t want to live with a bunch of froo froo. I asked him what he didn’t like about farmhouse style and he said that he thought it was too cutesy-precious and feminine looking.

I do see what he means by that; I don’t want that either.

But then he really surprised me when he said, “Why don’t you write to that decorator that you’re always talking about– Lauren something.”

Don’t worry. I told him that your name is LaureL. ;]

Well, here we are.

I guess you could said that I’m “A little bit country… He’s a little bit…” lol

 

If you could do a blog post about blending our two styles, I’d be very grateful.

 

Oh, one other thing. I adore blue– every shade and Mr. D’s entire wardrobe is blue. Maybe there’s some meeting ground there?

Thanks Laurel. I’m hoping that there’s enough here for a blog post. That would be wonderful!

Donnie Ann-Marie Osmond

PS: BTW. I’m keeping my name as is, because if I took his, I’d be Donnie Ann-Marie Osmond-Dusediekerbaumer. I think it might be a bit much?

 

Hi DA-MO,

Good move on keeping your name intact. Now, for the sanity. I think there’s a way to make it so that both of you can feel good in your new life together. And may it be a long, happy union too!

I agree with Mr. Dusediekerbaumer. Farmhouse style is often too precious and cutesy. I always think of faux chipped furniture and prints on the wall that say corny hackneyed expressions with fake-looking white-washed frames.

As for mission furniture which is really an off-shoot of the Arts and Crafts movement, I’m with you. But men adore it! They adore the oak, the square lines. I guess it appeals to their inner-caveman.

His upholstered furniture is not mission. The sofa is what I call “ersatz traditional.” The leather wing chair is close but not quite cutting it. The rust chair however, could work.

So, that’s step number one. If there’s a separate office or den, why not make that his MC filled with all of his Stickley furniture.

Let’s address the walls. The wood paneling is gorgeous and yes, it would look amazing painted white, but oh wait. You’re going to love this… I just got this comment the other day, which I did not publish. The A-hole put in a fake email address– [email protected] It appears that he made a typo there. I believe he meant it to be [email protected]

Here’s the comment:

 

Just an average family husband/father surfing for ideas for our newest purchase. (Hideous white with golden oak stained oak, and soft wood). Have owned 7 average homes (two now). Time to get over your hatred of wood trim. The mostly white rooms you display are hideous indeed to the average person. Perhaps you only write for, work for the rich who so very often go with what is popular vs what is practical and appealing to the family with kids who run around touching everything in sight. People who come home from a hard day of honest work desire a warm, soothing environment. A place of comfort that includes a place for the natural, as nature herself is the great de-stresser of life. Not looking for a space washed of the natural world around us.

 

Fun getting this crap in my email. :/ If that’s average, then the world is indeed doomed.

But anyway. It’s very difficult to get the menfolk to paint the wood once it’s stained. One thing I can tell you though is that when you do manage to convince them and do it, they all love it.

 

But fine. We’ll keep the wood and work with it.

 

Wood is basically either brown, cognac or caramel in color. And that needs to be taken into consideration. These warm tones love cool colors– like blues and greens.

What I’m hearing is that you dislike so much wood, the strong boxy shapes and the colors.

Mr. D loves the wood, the strong boxy shapes and the colors– but he also loves blue.

This gives me enough to go on, to come up with a beautiful compromise that will allow you guys to keep the wood paneling and a mix of more modern elements that I think will give you a handsome room that you’ll both love.

Of course, these are just general ideas.

 

Sometimes when people say that they don’t like certain colors, it only means that they don’t like them in a certain context.

 

Please hang onto that idea.

All right, let’s clear everything out. First thing we’ll do is paint the walls a warm off-white like Benjamin Moore Ivory White 925 would probably do the trick. I do normally like to paint the walls more of a color with the wood, but I think that for what I have in mind, a white is essential.

 

Now for the furnishings to create a sophisticated Modern Farmhouse Style

(that will not be in the slightest bit precious.)

 

There are two ways we can go. We could do a room that’s predominantly blue and white, mixing in different blues. The other way is to introduce some color and one of them is the rust. You could then keep the handsome rusty-red chair. Or if not, you could reupholster it. That’s a fine-looking piece.

 

I’d like to begin with a new sofa and build the room around that.

 

I found a handsome blue classic contemporary style. It has beautiful proportions and I think will appeal to Mr. D. Please bear in mind too, that sometimes people don’t know what they like until they see it. If they have never been exposed to something, in the first place, how can they like something they don’t know exists? Seems pretty logical.

 

one kings lane manhattan velvet sofa - farmhouse style

Manhattan Blue Velvet Sofa

The Kiawah hemp and woven cotton natural fiber rug from Serena and Lily. They have a wonderful collection of natural rugs.   These are far more affordable than hand-knotted Orientals.

This is a lovely rug for option one. (I’m feeling like Scott McGillivray just now, but not nearly as pretty. haha)

I love rattan in unexpected places like living rooms. Vicente Wolf has always done this with wonderful results. These fabulous Southampton chairs are from Williams-Sonoma Home

 

Another view. It’s well priced at only $595, but they are having a 20% off sale right now. I love the retro-influence this chair has.

Do you know this company called Minted? Well, if not, you should. They have a very fresh line of ready-made drapes in pretty cottons like this one, pillows and fabulous art prints.

Like this beauty. There’s a choice of frames as well.

 

Lovely blown glass lamp from Serena and Lily would look light and fresh in the scheme. But you could also do a white table lamp or even gold.

The Blake Raffia End Table is chic, stylish but not too formal and adds warmth without adding another wood element. Remember this post about how to make blue and white rooms not look cold?

 

A vintage black stone topped coffee table from Cherish is chic and brings in another element, plus black and gold. Always a good thing in any room.

 

And here are some more ideas to explore to get a blend of styles that will make Contemporary Farmhouse with a more masculine style.

 

 

My money is on your liking the rusty-red if mixed with rich blues, but the reason you don’t like it here, is because the rest of the palette is unanimously warm and that can feel heavy and tiring, along with so much wood and very little white. I did a post a while back about this wonderful color scheme using blues and oranges.

 

If so, then you could pursue option #2 and introduce a rug with some rusts and blues in it. And then, you could keep the rust chair as is, perhaps. Here are some gorgeous hand-knotted Orientals I found.

 

A beautiful hank-knotted Serapi Heriz.

I love the washed antique look of this rug. It’s amazing what they are doing these days.

This hand-knotted Ziegler is quite handsome.

A Hand-knotted Ziegler. These rugs are all very well-priced, especially to the prices they were geezz, TWENTY YEARS AGO! I would’ve expected a 9 x 12 handmade rug like this to retail for at least $6,000.00. Their price is hugely inflated, but it’s only selling for $3,099.00!

 

An eclectic hand-knotted area rug.

If ordering an Oriental online. First of all, I would make sure that you can return it and also pick the fabrics after you get the rug, unless it doesn’t matter that much.

We could also do some different pillows such as this wonderful pillow that those of you who own the paint palette collection may recognize.

Schumacher’s Hot House Flowers Pillow in Spark from Lily on Blue

Also please check out Spark Modern’s pillows— They have many, many wonderful designs.

and Hollie Rich’s wonderful store Stuck on Hue

Some more ideas to consider

I love how they styled the bookcase at Williams Sonoma Home.

For more bookcase styling ideas please check out this post.

 

Another wonderful vignette from Williams Sonoma Home

The Faux Shagreen Coffee Table is cool and contemporary. Shagreen was used a lot for furniture in the early part of the 20th century.

 

Another beautiful vignette from Williams Sonoma Home Love the entire thing. Those teal leather dining chairs would be way cool in the dining room and they look very comfy too.

Regency leather side chairs

I think this hand-knotted Oushak oushak rugunder the dining table would be awesome.

 

Devon 6- light chandelier over the dining table would be a classic contemporary/transitional piece that would stand the test of time. (please note that the Devon 8 light chandelier shown below is wonderful for this large room with a high ceiling, but at 48″ in diameter is going to be too large for the average sized dining room with a rectangular table.

Living room with classic rolled arm sofa, from the Bedford Collection (20% off) from Williams Sonoma Home. I am positive that this is manufactured by Lee Industries for them. and below a Scalamandre Le Tigre velvet pillow.

I have always, always, always loved white furniture. I had it in my old home and I raised two extremely grimy rambunctious boys. I’m with one of them today and need to sign off so that we can have some fun together in Boston before we see the Boston Ballet do Sleeping Beauty tonight.

I hope that this post gave y’all some great ideas for working with a spouse who has different tastes. Sometimes the meeting ground isn’t as far as you believed in the beginning.

There’s another post that I did a while back about a couple with disparate tastes in decorating.

And for more blue and white room ideas, this is last week’s post (if you missed it) featuring more of that.

xo,

 

  • Rosemary - May 24, 2017 - 1:51 PM

    I find that Mid-century Modern (like the George Nelson classics)can blend in very well with Mission furniture. You just have to have more than one piece of each in the room. MCM chrome actually enlivens the Mission pieces. Of course, I’m talking about actual Mission-style and not the big chunky, contemporary pieces that are sometimes called Mission.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 24, 2017 - 2:55 PM

      Hi Rosemary,

      When I think about it, I like a little MCM in most rooms. ReplyCancel

  • marsha - May 23, 2017 - 10:55 PM

    hi laurel,

    another fun and thoughtful post as always.
    I have a pair of the southhampton chairs and love them! (if only I can find those peacock colored pillows…)

    hope you enjoyed the ballet. (did it bring back memories? ;})

    off to check out that all modern pillow link, thanks for the ref!ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 24, 2017 - 2:53 PM

      Hi Marsha,

      The ballet always brings back memories. And the dance world is so tiny that it’s no more than one degree of separation.ReplyCancel

  • Sarah Bezanson - May 23, 2017 - 12:57 PM

    I agree with the husband (although, not quite with his style!) – this Farmhouse style has gotten out of control! While I love some Farmhouse type aspects (painted wood furniture and paneling), too much Farmhouse can just be a bit much.
    Thanks for sharing tips on how to blend styles. People have sometimes asked me what my style is, and I’ve asked myself that as well, and I would have to say that I prefer a blend. Too much of a “good” thing can just be too much!
    Now, off to paint an antique wooden vanity! (My husband has gotten over his squeamishness of me painting wood)ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 23, 2017 - 3:43 PM

      Hi Sarah,

      Thanks so much for the lovely comment! And happy painting! ReplyCancel

  • Mary Duffy - May 23, 2017 - 8:58 AM

    Brilliant,. I never would have thought to consider the shape.of the furniture as a means of compromise. Ok now will you make my husbands danish modern dining table work in my traditional home?!! two different interior designers have been in my home over the last 25 years and both have said, without prompting from me, “you’re getting rid of that, right?” Wrong. I’m stuck with it. I replaced the chairs with with white slip covered parsons chairs but that’s as far as I’ve gotten. Do I add a danish looking lamp or chandelier to make it look intentional or do I ignore it.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 23, 2017 - 11:04 AM

      Hi Mary,

      Can’t say what the chandelier should be without seeing it in context. But I would never walk into a prospective client’s home and say, “you’re getting rid of that right?”

      incredibly tacky, IMO. If I see something I don’t think works, I wait for the client to speak up. Or, I ask if anything needs to stay. ReplyCancel

  • Mlh - May 22, 2017 - 8:26 AM

    My 93 year old aunt has all original mission furniture in her den & dining room (she inherited it from her in-laws). The sofa is just like the chairs with a cushion on the wood seat. It is all the most uncomfortable seating you can have although the dining room chairs are ok.

    I dislike it because of that and because the wood is so orangey and because I just basically dislike the style. I thought I was the only person in the world who hated mission style. It’s nice to know there are others.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 22, 2017 - 9:30 AM

      Thanks so much Mlh! Must run because I need to head back home today.ReplyCancel

  • Annette Glendon - May 21, 2017 - 9:30 PM

    Cannot tell you how much I love your blog posts and today was no different. I sat with a cup of coffee this morning and just got lost in all of your beautiful design suggestions for a blissful hour. That chinoiserie themed picture you posted from Williams and Sonoma is one of my favorite rooms ever and those blues are amazing! It’s so nice to dream…..ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 22, 2017 - 1:09 AM

      Hi Annette,

      I’m with you on the dreaming… Sometimes it does come true.ReplyCancel

  • Kathy Phelan - May 21, 2017 - 5:34 PM

    LOVE your blog. Your ideas to blend two styles will help many couples!ReplyCancel

  • susie - May 21, 2017 - 4:51 PM

    maybe you could use some of his man cave stuff and translate it into more of a British Colonial Caribbean look. I think India Hicks may have some of that décor in her Caribbean digs.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 5:17 PM

      Hi Susie,

      I love that look! There’s a lot of dark wood, but also a lot of white and that makes it look fresh.ReplyCancel

  • Jenny - May 21, 2017 - 2:55 PM

    I LOVE this post
    It’s also the first time I sincerely thought it’s a real letter lol
    I wonder how to overcome differences that suddenly start arising when it comes to art? Say you always saw eye to eye..and then you get more and more into it, for many reasons..and you get more daring I guess..and you get gloomier..and you’re still accepted but at some point your partner says “HEY! it’s my house too, you know. Didn’t your Grandma teach you that?”(My Grandma was great at houses hence the reference). and I’m, like “Dear, if I was my Grandma you’ll have no say whatsoever..I’m an angel here..we do everything..well almost lol..together..I just want a bit different art, because I grow older, things change”..and..

    Well I guess I’m very blessed, overall. We continue to figure it out. Takes time but we do. But it’s interesting. One house. Two people. Or more people.

    Was sure simpler for my Grandma-she decided she was the one who decides. We were six-and only she had a say(a good one, but still)

    And some things they are very very personal. More personal than others. Turns to be about you in a millisecond. About both of you.

    This post..Very much appreciated, Laurel.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 5:16 PM

      Hi Jenny,

      Thank you so much. Your Grandma was undoubtedly a very special woman!ReplyCancel

  • Myrna - May 21, 2017 - 1:47 PM

    I laughed outlous at the guy’s cooment on painted trim! Good thing you have a sense of humor. Just a thought, perhaps this husband to be #3 feels changing the decor would be disrespectful to his late wife’s memory? Might be more an emotional attachment to it vs. simply not liking farmhouse style.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 2:39 PM

      Hi Myrna,

      It’s probably a little of both in the fictional husband-to-be’s case.

      Yeah.. the real-life dude hasn’t learned the finer points of debate meaning we leave the words “you need” out of the discussion. He doesn’t get to decide what I or anyone but himself needs! ReplyCancel

      • Tess - May 23, 2017 - 11:51 AM

        Yes, that was lovely manspeaking. Also, it was incorrect on each point. I have three young kids AND a dog, and they’re perfectly compatible with all the white in my home. I did not buy a white cloth couch, but the white walls, shelves, desk, side tables, leather furniture, bedding, and even bedroom rug are just fine. And as a nature lover, I appreciate wood too, but there’s nothing more restful, peaceful, and clean than a combination of wood and lots and lots of white!ReplyCancel

  • Abby - May 21, 2017 - 10:12 AM

    I love the arts and crafts style and have had two houses done in that style. I have to laugh at this because I see some of my stickley furniture peaking out in there. In our new house I’ve decided I’m kind of tired with it, so I appreciate the blending options you’ve shown. I’ve found myself liking mid century modern style and more true modern as well. I’m lucky to have a walkout lower level where I can fully indulge a whole different scheme.

    Luckily I’m tough enough to stick to my own taste. I like to see options, but do get cranky sometimes when every blessed decorating and design featured in every magazine and blog pretty much insists that us wood stained, mission and arts and craft lovers are a bunch of cave dwelling neanderthals with zero taste and any wood surface must be attacked with a can of paint.

    As an ex forestry major, living in the Midwest, I guess I come by it honestly.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 2:31 PM

      Hi Abby,

      True arts and crafts style is beautiful and has a richness like a fine cognac– so, feel free to snub back those “vodka loving” folks who don’t get it.ReplyCancel

  • Cindy - May 21, 2017 - 10:04 AM

    Laurel,
    All looks good and although I love the look of the Southampton chairs, you can’t sit in them very long due to the arms make impressions in your arms, have one hate it.ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 2:27 PM

      Hi Cindy,

      I guess that’s one way to get rid of your guests. Lol. They are really occasional chairs. And good to know that it’s not a good idea to actually use the arms for resting ones own. :]ReplyCancel

  • Beth Sholtis - May 21, 2017 - 10:02 AM

    Hi Laurel—–Your suggestions are terrific! (I think the hardest part is getting past the emotional response of “I hate paneling” and understanding “paneling is a color”) Thank you very much for the great ideas Hope you have a great day with your son!!!ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 2:25 PM

      Hi Beth,

      I’m having a great time. Taking a break. He’s a professional musician and playing in a parade right now, but we already had a very early gig at the Boston Ballet where he plays for a special needs dance class.ReplyCancel

  • Ellen Shook - May 21, 2017 - 10:01 AM

    I think you have offered some wonderful suggestions and compromises, as did a couple of the commenters.

    One thing I was going to suggest (and then you said your mother was a marriage counselor!) was perhaps a session or two with said counselor. As one who has remarried twice and blended households, I can tell you this with certainty: it is better to get rid of both of the existing homes and start fresh!

    It sounds like the man in the couple who doesn’t want anything to change is trying to find a substitute for his late wife and slide in that particular puzzle piece without interrupting his whole gestalt. If he wants to make a new life with a new wife, they would do better to consider a new home.

    So that is my armchair analysis for the day for what it is worth.😉ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 2:23 PM

      Hi Ellen,

      I agree with you analysis. Alas, we’re all flawed. The character is made up, but in my mind, Mr. D. is trying to hang on to some vestige of his old life.

      Some people have a lot of trouble with change. I’ve known some like that.ReplyCancel

  • Elle - May 21, 2017 - 7:49 AM

    The living room isn’t Arts & Crafts or Mission. If I had to label it, it would be Wannabe Lake House, or Can I Have a Cabin? Maybe the best way to approach this room is to keep it casual, comfortable and rustic in “spirit” while using blues and greens, (prettier) wood, and sunshine (whites, gold) to suggest the outdoors. Also, since they have means, they should get themselves a nice little cabin by a lake and be done with it! There is nothing right about that dining room. Its style is “Dinner at the Office.”ReplyCancel

    • Elle - May 21, 2017 - 10:30 AM

      What I meant to say (I should never comment before 9:30 am) is that, when dealing with husbands and non-decorator men in general, it’s usually a good idea to take their edicts with a grain of salt while trying to get to the heart of what’s freaking them out. It’s a gross generalization but I have always found it to be true. In this case, traditional, outdoorsy, masculine and comfortable, seem to be what’s loved. So you wouldn’t ever go all Paris Modern Chic or whatever, but you still have a lot of leeway. Sometimes they’re just really afraid of ruffles and floral prints and, and don’t want to have to worry about crumbs, even though ruffles, etc., had NEVER occurred to you. Some men can articulate the range of options that they like but many can’t, so it’s best to view that as part of the fun of redecorating, sort of a game. As long as they can relax easily and don’t have to worry about ruining anything, they tend to like more elegant designs than they imagine. I know my husband very well, so when he gives me decorating advice I always listen and agree, then do my own thing, and he’s happy.ReplyCancel

      • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 2:34 PM

        Hi Elle,

        I very much like your approach.

        The rules of decorating are simple.

        Happy wife. Happy life. :]ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 8:25 AM

      Hi Elle,

      lol, you’re right. It’s an ersatz hodgepodge, but the photo came from the place (don’t want to mention the name) that still makes furniture in the Mission/Arts and Crafts style.

      I’m trying not to put up photos that might’ve been done by someone I know. It happened once and I was mortified. Also, some people might love these rooms and I respect that.

      They also carry a lot of other “traditional” furniture. I haven’t been in the store in many, many years, so I imagine they’ve updated a lot of their styles.ReplyCancel

  • Mary - May 21, 2017 - 7:26 AM

    My husband is far from perfect. But at least he lets me decorate how I want. And we have the same taste, so that helps. When I read or hear stories like yours, it makes me appreciate him all the more.
    I think most men can’t envision what the new design will look or feel like. Some designers now have programs that can show what the finished room will look like. I think that’s very helpful. Also working with a designer they completely trust. Viewing designers portfolios is extremely helpful.
    And some men just don’t like change. Plain & simple.
    But those same men are the ones that love the new space after a complete install is done while they are out of the house.
    I hope you are enjoying time with your son!ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 8:21 AM

      Hi Mary,

      In my 25 years working with clients, the majority of the husbands were very much in the background if not, totally invisible. If he’s involved, he needs to be at the meetings. Nothing worse than spending hours on something the wife and I love only to be shot down by the one who actually holds all of the power!

      But most couples do agree. However, there were some that did not and a lot of men who really did not want to change or at least not paint.ReplyCancel

  • Ann - May 21, 2017 - 3:45 AM

    I’m excited about the potential of these rooms! You offer wonderful sugestions for working with what is and what could be. I love love love those dining chairs. Amd many other of your ideas.
    These could be beautiful rooms while satisfying both their desires.,
    Hilarious name by the way.ReplyCancel

  • jo - May 21, 2017 - 12:46 AM

    ..the first thing that would have to go, is that ‘board room’ dining table with matching chairs & that, also matching, Darth Vader intruder, masquerading as book shelves.

    Love the examples you have illustrated your comments with, Laurel. If ever you get tired of advising on interiors ( please don’t ) you obviously have a talent for marriage guidance….ReplyCancel

    • Laurel Bern - May 21, 2017 - 12:59 AM

      Hi Jo,

      Yes, that table is really horrible. The entire dining room is a study in a combo pack of blah and weird. Yes, the etagere is strange especially with the way it’s staged.

      My mom was a marriage counselor. I guess that some of it rubbed off. But there’s a running joke amongst us that we feel like marriage counselors sometimes.

      I forgot to say and most know that the ‘dear laurel’ with funny names are 100% works of fiction. It’s fun because I make them do anything that suits the story.

      But they are always based on real-life situations. ReplyCancel